Benjamin Rosenbaum

Comments on "Only ten songs, and some notes on girls kissing"

I'm not sure any of this is cause for hope -- the sexual revolution and Stonewall here serve, after a generation's lag, simply to make our hypothetical lad feel threatened about fewer things in his self-indulgent mastery fantasies -- but it's interesting.

So, "cause for hope." What is it you're hoping for, and why?

peace
Matt

Posted by Matt Hulan at November 29, 2007 03:32 PM

> Now how long before we get a female artist to cover the song, swapping the genders?

That has happened already, Ben, just look at this:
http://www.lyricscafe.com/g/garbage/androgyny.htm

Cheers from your co-worker in Zurich :)
-urs-

Posted by Urs at December 1, 2007 03:51 PM

So, "cause for hope." What is it you're hoping for, and why?

An excellent question. Um, that everyone would be fully free, self-expressed, self-knowing, able to embrace all their kooky desires with humor, restraint and class, but free of irrational guilt, shame, and fear of oppression, that we would all treat each other well and enjoy the world of the senses, the body, and each other as a holy gift, and that politicized confederations of fetishes like "straight" and "gay", or for that matter "masculine" and "feminine", would become an obscure historical research topic for grad students -- not by virtue of us all having become identical, but rather by virtue of us all discovering we are radically different each from the next? Something like that?

In the near term, I'd like the Pittsburg Slim video to end with the kissing girls cutting the skype connection and Slim looking ambivalently pleased yet also suddenly worried.

Urs, I should listen to the music with the lyrics, but it seems more in the category of the Blur tune -- or maybe even a lament?

Posted by Benjamin Rosenbaum at December 4, 2007 10:09 PM

Righteous!

Also, good luck with that.

peace
Matt

Posted by Matt Hulan at December 4, 2007 10:42 PM

Thanks, I'll need it.

Posted by Benjamin Rosenbaum at December 4, 2007 10:44 PM

I fail to see where the songs that I have written, for example, for you, Aviva and Noah,fit into your list of 10.

Also, with regard to: "in a way she wouldn't have been (or he wouldn't have been able to admit she was) in 1958." You don't know nuthin about girls in 1958.

Posted by David at February 26, 2008 01:14 AM

Only ten pop songs. But you could also expand category #1 to include "love" rather than "want". "I love my kid" is a much more common type of folk or country song than pop song, though I can think of a few examples....

> You don't know nuthin about girls in 1958.

Just what I got from "Grease".

Posted by Benjamin Rosenbaum at February 26, 2008 10:17 AM

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